The hits keep on coming. I have had as many folks visit my blog in the past six days as I have had in the previous three months. Over 2600 now within the past day. That certainly says something about the prevalence of porn in cyberspace! All presumably still looking for this.
In the comments at History News Network on my post immediately below, Ophelia Benson wrote:
I'm a grizzled ol' feminist myself, but I've grown increasingly dubious about that 'the personal is political' mantra in the last ten years or so - partly because I know all too many women who take it all too literally and apply it all too extensively - who, in short, seem to be completely incapable of talking or thinking about anything that's not personal. That is unbelievably limiting, obviously. In many ways Second Wave Feminism seems to have pushed us back into a cage as well as letting us out.
So, in short, is the historical always the personal? Is that a sine qua non of gender studies? If so, why? And does that seem to result in a narrow, parochial view of what history is in students who buy into it?
And as for therapy - that's the first thing I thought when starting to read the post. Frankly the whole subject sounds perilously close to therapy. And...I have a lot of problems with that. It seems so infantilizing, for one thing. And so (again) parochial, for another. I mean - it is an important subject (I've read the Brumberg book) but is it an academic one?
Ophelia asks some super questions, and I tried to answer them briefly at HNN. I've taught a series of courses that apply this brand of "feminist personal history", including one last semester on Men and Masculinity. My pedagogy is one that proudly (perhaps blatantly) seeks to integrate personal experience with whatever subject matter we happen to be dealing with. Kathleen Weiler puts it nicely:
In terms of feminist pedagogy, the authority of the feminist teacher as intellectual and theorist finds expression in the goal of making students themselves theorists of their own lives by interrogating and analyzing their own experience.
With every fiber of my being as a teacher, I believe that one of my highest responsibilities is to make my students "theorists of their own lives"! To some degree, that is of course going to be therapeutic in both practice and intent. I am not a trained therapist (though in doing gender studies work, one is naturally exposed to a great deal of psychology!) But I also know that for most of my working-class community college students, long-term therapy is simply never going to be an option in their lives. It is cruel and unreasonable to assume that they should have any other forum for wrestling with and analyzing their own experiences! A feminist classroom should be a safe place for students to share these experiences. It should also be a challenging place, where students' traditional assumptions about themselves (and in the case of my course, their bodies) are called into question.
Now what it means to have a male teacher try and employ feminist pedagogy, that's another discussion altogether.
Funny, because I try to do very similar things with history, particularly social history, but I don't perceive (nor do my students percieve, apparently) my classroom as being feminist. While I do not make a presentist case for everything I teach I nonetheless try to instill my teaching with elements of theory (economic, political, social, intellectual, religious....) which are useful and relevant to contemporary life.
I invoke my students' personal experiences wherever possible ("Anyone here ever fired a crossbow? What's it like?"), and I try to make analogies to the present because it's a tool for increasing the presence of the past.
This isn't an issue of therapy or presentism. It is a matter of education, which is supposed to give students an appreciation for life and culture and tools to continue to grow intellectually, ethically, professionally.
History is very personal. So is political science, if you take things at all seriously. So is literature. So is psychology. So is physics and statistics. That doesn't mean that we can privilege opinion and emotive responses, but that abstracting our fields away from life is wrong, and we have to deal with the question of how our studies interact with our and our students' lives. Is this a feminist perspective?
Posted by: Jonathan Dresner | April 23, 2004 at 03:17 PM
Well, yes and no. Yes, the sharing of personal experience is surely part of what we are trying to do. But a feminist perspective notes that women's experiences tend to receive shorter shrift than men's,and as a consequence, it takes steps to redress that. A feminist pedagogy also notes that women and men share experience differently. One has to construct a classroom that will be safe space for women who don't feel comfortable raising their hands in a lecture hall format.
Above all, feminist pedagogy recognizes that the most crucial "sharing" is the sharing of painful, difficult, experiences that are linked to gender issues.
Posted by: Hugo | April 23, 2004 at 04:07 PM
OK, mine is not a feminist pedagogy, clearly. I'm not much for "constructing classroom space" (Yeah, I need to work on that, and it's not a gender thing), and I don't usually teach subjects in which ameliorating personal trauma is an issue. And I don't privilege gender as a vector of historical or personal trauma, though I do integrate it quite effectively in social and economic history.
That's OK. We have other people here who do your stuff, and I support that.
Posted by: Jonathan Dresner | April 23, 2004 at 04:28 PM
And I support folks who initiate classroom discussions with questions like "Anyone here ever fired a crossbow?" There's one we don't get around to much in gender studies.
Posted by: Hugo | April 23, 2004 at 04:38 PM
I hope that crossbow filed a grievance! I never heard of such a thing. Crossbows can do the job as well as anyone else.
"But I also know that for most of my working-class community college students, long-term therapy is simply never going to be an option in their lives. It is cruel and unreasonable to assume that they should have any other forum for wrestling with and analyzing their own experiences!"
Well, that's certainly a point. (Too bad the fashion for consciousness-raising sessions died out, isn't it. Not that I ever actually went to one, and I've heard that a lot of them were horrible - either full of interpersonal tensions etc or over their own heads - dealing with stuff that [again] should have been dealt with by people with eight or nine medical degrees. But still, that sounds like another potentially useful therapy-substitute.) And I do think the whole tyranny of Britneyish-or-whoeverish-appearance thing should be deconstructed and problematized all over the place. But - I also think the chance to learn about wider subjects is irreplaceable. So I'm torn.
Gotta go, I'm going to organize a union for crossbows.
Posted by: Ophelia Benson | April 23, 2004 at 05:35 PM
U.N. Strung, Senior Representative for the Longbow Union has declared they will march out in solidarity with their fired crossbow brothers and sisters.
Seriously, though, it's an interesting thought, that a male teacher would teach young women about body-image. I'm sure you do an excellent job, Hugo, but it still seems a bit strange to me. Of course, I'm from another generation where women's studies were called home economics and the body image we were taught to have was of a woman in heels, stockings, dress and pearls meeting husband at the door with a kiss and serving up the roast precisely on the tick of 6pm.
Posted by: Mumcat | April 23, 2004 at 06:16 PM
Actually, just as we consider "cross-dressing" to be an inaccurate pejorative, we try not to talk about "crossbows" at all anymore. We talk about "gender-reassigned arrow propulsion devices".
Posted by: Hugo | April 23, 2004 at 09:35 PM
LOL. Thank you for pointing that out, Hugo. :) You're right on target with that one.
Posted by: Mumcat | April 24, 2004 at 12:32 PM
Made me laugh raucously too. Wish I'd thought of it first and stuck it in the Fashionable Dictionary.
Posted by: Ophelia Benson | April 24, 2004 at 04:05 PM
Does that mean that my discussion of the superiority of longbows is lengthism?
I get to ask all kinds of goofy questions: when we talk about Rome I ask if anyone's ever seen a charging elephant....
Posted by: Jonathan Dresner | April 24, 2004 at 05:24 PM
And then you follow that up with 'Does the elephant use Visa or Mastercard?'
Posted by: Ophelia Benson | April 25, 2004 at 10:50 AM
Well, the other problem is that to describe an elephant as charging reflects anthropomorphism, not to mention elephantiphobia. Charging is our perception of their activity, activity that within the community of loxodonta africanae might be more accurately understood as defensive behavior in response to human aggression. It goes without saying that historically speaking, men rather than women have been both the primary enemies of elephants as well as the primary zoologists of elephant behavior. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Posted by: Hugo | April 25, 2004 at 01:29 PM
Ugh, Hugo, I forgot to forewarn you that, among other things, in a former life Ophelia worked with elephants in a zoo. We may hear about this! She will know whereof she speaks.
Posted by: Ralph Luker | April 25, 2004 at 02:10 PM
Well, she doesn't know which credit cards elephants tend to use, so I don't feel threatened. Yet.
Posted by: Hugo | April 25, 2004 at 03:54 PM
Odd, isn't it? I try to find these things out right up front. She may have forgotten to ask.
Posted by: Ralph Luker | April 25, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Ah no, I didn't say I didn't know which card 'Phants use, I said that's what Jonathan asks his students next. Tsk. Sloppy reading! I hope that's not how you guys conduct yourselves in the archives.
Posted by: Ophelia Benson | April 25, 2004 at 05:55 PM
To be honest, the followup never even occurred to me. That's kind of embarassing, actually.
Whole realms of bad elephant jokes come to mind, coupled with even worse Hannibal jokes. I wonder, though. Would my students evals be better or worse if I used them in class? Should it matter?
Posted by: Jonathan Dresner | April 25, 2004 at 08:00 PM
Oh dear - those jokes are bad then? My colleague made a Hannibal joke in the Fashionable Dictionary, and I got into one of those unstoppable fits of laughter at it a couple of days ago when doing a semi-final editorial read-through. It's corny as Iowa, to be sure, but it's funny...
Posted by: Ophelia Benson | April 26, 2004 at 07:45 AM
I lived in Iowa for three years. It's mostly pork and soy, now, though I do miss the St. Jude's Corn Festival.
I thought of a fabulous Hannibal-Elephant joke, told it to my exceptionally intelligent wife and had to explain it for about three minutes before she acknowledged that it was a joke. Maybe the jokes are funny, but delivery.... (would you sign for this joke, please?)
Posted by: Jonathan Dresner | April 26, 2004 at 11:34 AM
In humor, as in the obstetrics ward of the hospital, everything depends on the delivery. :)
Posted by: Mumcat | April 27, 2004 at 08:44 AM