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November 07, 2006

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Mike A.

I think conservatives are slightly less likely to talk to the pollsters.
But I've got early hope too. Although, right now I still feel like I'm just waiting to be disappointed. Although- my conservative sister in Ohio did vote democrat which certainly does give me some hope that maybe my dreams won't be crushed.

Bob

Things are looking mighty good for us liberals, Hugo! Santorum has been crushed and defeated.

Shawna R. B. Atteberry

Democrats have taken the house, Hugo. We'll at least get that this time! Woot!

Hugo

I am sitting in my boxers at the computer. I have four or five webpages open, and the chinnies and I are watching MSNBC. Great news in the house races; praying to pick up Virginia and Montana and Missouri.

Laura

Democrats took the House!

And I went to a victory rally in Boston, and John Kerry was there, and I blew him a kiss, and he blew me a kiss back! *blushes*

Hugo

Laura, hope you blew him a kiss for me. So much for the Republican hope that his gaffe at Pasadena City College would hurt our party.

Laura

I did! :)

I'm so happy that his gaffe didn't end up hurting the Dems. I was annoyed at him when he made it, but seeing him tonight, I couldn't help being excited. I'd seen him before, but only from a distance, and this time he was only 10 feet away. And I just can't get over that air kiss...it was awesome.

Laura

BTW, I used to comment here (very occasionally) as sparklegirl, so that's who I am in case you're wondering...

katster

Looks like the Dems got SecState too, which makes me happy. Bowden's promised to do something about those voting machines.

I'm most happy about Lt. Gov. I mean, not only did a guy from Cal win it, but he won it over Tom McClintock, who, despite being the sort of guy who seriously believes in his principles, is so diametrically opposite everything I believe in that I have to completely root against him.

All in all, it's nice to be going to bed on Election Night happy.

-kat

Lya Kahlo

"it's nice to be going to bed on Election Night happy."

I'll second that. I live in NYS, so our dem wins aren't at all a surprise (go Eliot!!), but the national results are. I slept wonderfully.

Erin C.

Hear hear! I was ecstatic when I woke up this morning and heard the Dems took the House. *crosses fingers for the Senate*

djw

Such a wonderful morning. Here in WA we also defeated an estate tax repeal, a campaign in which I was personally invested. And Arizona rejected a gay marriage ban. Did we see that coming, in a still red state? I certainly didn't. Good on Arizona.

At this point, I strongly suspect MT and VA leads will hold up. I'm glad it's not my job to make nice with Joe Lieberman...

But my favorite result of the evening is New Hampshire, I think. Taking not only the tossup NH2, but also the huge upset in NH1 and a dramatic Democratic takeover of state gov't. I think this may well be a turning point for NH, the Bush era has shown NH Republicans that they don't fit in this party anymore. Also, the the dirty trick robocalls of the national party appear to have backfired, and how.

Space Chick

Hugo, it strikes me as odd that you would write "We've got the House...". Do you really think a major political party represents your goals and dreams well enough that you can identify with one that thoroughly? For me, no matter who it is, politicians are "they", because I don't feel that any of them have my best interests at heart.

djw

Can't answer for Hugo, of course, but I use "we" when talking about Democrats not because of complete or near-complete agreement on policy issues, but as a way of standing in solidarity with the millions of Americans who see this party as the best way to govern ourselves.

ks
I was annoyed at him when he made it, but seeing him tonight, I couldn't help being excited. I'd seen him before, but only from a distance, and this time he was only 10 feet away. And I just can't get over that air kiss...it was awesome.

Kerry came here in 2004 and I got to shake his hand (along with John Glenn, who is one of my personal heroes, physics/astronomy geek that I am--I cried when I met him). I wasn't particularly enamored of him before that rally, but he's much better in person than he comes across on television. I would have supported him anyway, because Bush just wasn't an option for me, but after than I could do it with some enthusiasm.

I'm mostly happy with the way the election turned out, especially here. We kicked DeWine out and won almost all the statewide races. It is indeed a good day to be a Democrat. I just hope they'll actually do something with all this political capital and not waste it by being too timid.

Hugo

What DJW said.

Col Steve

DJW-
The vote was 51-49 in AZ. The amendment might have passed if the measure didn't also include banning civil unions and domestic partnerships. While AZ was the first state not to approve banning same-sex marriage, the issue is hardly confined to "red states." Look at the votes in CO and WI as well as folks in TN and VA who clearly voted for Ford and Webb, yet also for the SSM ban.

As for NH, I wouldn't be so sure about a "turning point." Lynch is popular, emphasizes bi-partisanship, and supports the no-income/sales tax platform. Hodes ran a better campaign than 2 years ago and in many cases (national defense minus Iraq, immigration, 2d amendment) is as much a "NH republican" as a "New England liberal." Bradley ran a terrible campaign and time will tell if Shea-Porter will end up a one/two-termer when Iraq and Bush are not on the voters' minds and if a republican like Frank Giunta decides to run for that seat. Finally, Democratic control of the legislature at a time when the property tax burden (and no income/sales tax pledge by Lynch) and educational funding mandate by the NH Supreme Court are on a collision course will present a serious challenge for the party in power. Of course, the state may also get a flood of the endangered Massachusetts republican population now that Deval Patrick is Governor there. If Sununu loses in 2008, then I might agree with your turning point comment.

Your comment on NH republicans (my wife being in that group) not fitting the party anymore strikes me as at odds with your reply to Space Chick. Do Bob Casey, Heath Shuler, or Joe Lieberman fit in the Democratic party of Nancy Pelosi? Politics in NH, like many other states, is very local at times (McCain won the primary in 2000 and Bradley almost beat Gore).

djw

our comment on NH republicans (my wife being in that group) not fitting the party anymore strikes me as at odds with your reply to Space Chick. Do Bob Casey, Heath Shuler, or Joe Lieberman fit in the Democratic party of Nancy Pelosi? Politics in NH, like many other states, is very local at times

No, that's exactly my point. I stand with people who have appalling views on many issues. Democrats disagree on many things. What we agree on is that the politicians who represent the Republican party simply can't continue to be allowed to govern, and the politicians who represent the Democratic party offer a superior alternative. I'm proud to stand with those people.

You're correct, of course, that whether the NH revolution is will last remains to be seen, and will have a great deal to do with local politics, and I admit to giddy optimism perhaps beyond reason. But traditional NH republicanism is so much closer to today's Democratic party than it is to Bush's brand of Republicanism, it seems like a real possibility, should they handle local challenges with skill, grace and moderation.

djw

Yes, I'm aware that gay marriage bans pass with ease in states left and right. If you look at the age breakdown of those votes, it seems reasonable to say it won't be like this forever, but for now this is a political reality that I find powerfully depressing, which is why the AZ result is such a pleasant surprise.

SamChevre

And on "gay marriage bans"--the constitutional amendment in VA didn't change anything in practice; it just constitutionalized what is currently statutory. In spite of/Because of that fact, my friends who were working for the Commonwealth Coalition thought they had a good chance of defeating it until the NJ SC decision.

Col Steve

But traditional NH republicanism is so much closer to today's Democratic party than it is to Bush's brand of Republicanism.

Well, DJW, it is difficult to compare one "brand" of political affiliation with that of an entire party. What is "today's Democratic party?" I hardly think the politics of Aiken (Vermont) is close to Bernie Sanders or Pat Leahy. Does Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid fit Rudman, Gregg, Sununu, or Merrill? If you're saying it's a big party, we'll see at convention time..just like the Republicans. Both parties have bases that tend to dominate and complain about the "waffling" centrists.

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Can't answer for Hugo, of course, but I use "we" when talking about Democrats not because of complete or near-complete agreement on policy issues, but as a way of standing in solidarity with the millions of Americans who see this party as the best way to govern ourselves.

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