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April 05, 2005

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Tom Harrison

At the same time, those of us who are "outsiders" by virtue of race or sex have an obligation to be especially fair-minded and sensitive

I understand what you're saying in this context, but I might take the position that it's the insiders who need to be scrupulously fair-minded to the minority.

To the larger question about outside activity and fitness to teach, I'm not sure what I think. Just to throw something out there I'll say this: He has every right to be a Nazi, but no right to a particular job. Unless there's enough consensus to pass a law to the contrary (as there has been for race and sex), then I'm for employment at will.

NancyP

The number of absences appears to have been significant for an adjunct. Unless he could prove hospitalization, I'd can him on that alone. Now, should he be rehired? Well, I would have no qualms about not hiring a creationist to teach biology 101. I would not hire David Irving to teach about the Third Reich. This guy, I would have to say, sounds just plain loopy. He has lost his credibility permanently - no institution would want to hire him if they anticipate having Jewish or nonwhite students, since there would always be the question of his impartiality. Not to mention, if he didn't draw students, that would be an unnecessary expense, and if he did draw students, that's bad publicity. An adjunct just isn't worth it. There is no way that his outside activities can now be walled off from his teaching. Sorry, Hugo, no comparison.

Hugo

But Nancy, David Irving has brought his views into his scholarship. Pluss apparently kept them rigidly separate -- aren't scholars entitled to have private lives, no matter how objectionable, if they successfully practice impartiality in the classroom?

cmc

The problem with Pluss's views is that, as Dean Snyder said, they boil down to hatred-- "hatred towards the very students he taught." Pluss himself confirmed Dean Snyder's observation when he described his university's basketball players as "n--- to the core" who "sit in the back of my class with CDs and earphones" listening to "ghastly rap music." Pluss's use of the "n" word illustrates that he despises these students just because of who they are.

Hugo, you may disagree with or disapprove of a student's decision to have an abortion. But you hold no political or philosophical views that would lead you to despise a student's entire personhood on sight; I can think of no such philosophy other than the type of overtly racist viewpoint Pluss espouses.

I think it would be fair for a university to conclude based on Pluss's political views that he would not be fair to his minority students, even if he has successfully hidden his prejudices from them.

Hugo

cmc, it's a good point. I'm not, mind you, losing much sleep over what has happened to Prof. P. I worry, however, about establishing precedent for firing even adjunct faculty for their political views outside the classroom.

Concerned parent

You guys realise, don't you, that Hugo has a history of having sex with his students? I am concerned he is now teaching young children. Please keep an eye on him.

NancyP

Well, the trouble is not that the guy has some unknown opinion in his outside life that doesn't affect his interpretation of the subject that he is teaching, but that he has now a known opinion that to many many people would indicate that he is incapable of being fair to a certain subgroup of his students. I worked to get my women's college to dump a maths/philosophy professor who taught symbolic logic course and who stated that girls couldn't do the subject, and he could prove it because noone got an A in his exam - which turned out to be lifted from a graduate level course and completely inappropriate for the freshman level course he was teaching. I don't have any guilt pangs about this - he shouldn't have taken the job in the first place, and he shouldn't have been shooting his mouth off about how stupid girls were and also trying, unsuccessfully, to bang all the European grad students/language TAs. This guy lasted one semester. Now I grant you that the Nazi didn't appear to be a huge problem to some of his students (which ones? the white non-Jews? we simply don't know, and I don't automatically take a white person's word for non-racist behavior simply because white folk aren't/don't need to be observant) before his involvement in the Nazi party became known, but I can guarantee you that now that his involvement in Nazi party is known, any reasonable person is going to assume that he is not able to be fair to Jews and people of color. Sorry, he is hired to teach ALL the students without prejudice.

Barbara

I disagree with NancyP. Canning him because of the perception that someone with his views can't be impartial is the same as canning him for those views. I wouldn't lose much sleep over it either, but I do think it's probably a bad precedent, though, of course, I know nothing about the issue of absence. NancyP's professor actually insulted his students, which strikes me as a very different situation. Not that this professor's views do not raise very difficult problems -- would Jews or Blacks be fearful of being downgraded by the professor and therefore avoid a course that they would otherwise take? And how can the university be sure or take steps to monitor that this is not the case?

Hugo

Lots of folks, Nancy, have questioned whether as a pro-life evangelical I can fairly present the abortion-rights movement. (I can -- I can give a stirring lecture on Margaret Sanger that makes her out to be immensely heroic, even though I personally believe hers is a troubled and more nuanced legacy .)

Tara

Is all that 'nazi' means to people nowadays 'racist'? That's certainly a victory for the David Irvings of the world...

Eric

Personally, I feel that it is very possible for a National Socialist to be impartial in teaching and being employed in the academic field. If a African American teacher was fired because of their involvement in a "black power" organization we would never hear the end of it. Yet, a European American being a member of a "White Power" organization can be fired on a whim. This nation has a double standard when it comes to civil rights, and honestly it sickens me. Apparently the white man no longer has the same rights that those of other racial groups do.

Jon

I find it to be rather disheartening in this society in which we live where the main focal point is equality and freedoms to engage in what ever activities we deem fit.

It is been made quite clear the Professor kept his personal views away from his work place, in this case ofcourse the work place being the education of our American young adults.

The problem I have with this, is the fact that freedom of speech for example only applies to the main stream socially accepted norm. When an individual choosens to enlighten themselves and further engages in activities with others who are themselves enlighted and have broken free from the bonds of a rather controlled and brainwashed sheeple society that person is prosecuted and persecuted.

I wonder what would have happened had Professor Pluss announced he was a full fledged member of the communist party or a member of some well known Muslim group? Would he of received an ovation from the board of deans or perhaps an award for excellence?

The bottom line is we all are supposed to be entitled to our own personal beliefs without consequences. Apparently that only applies when we choose to adopt a more main stream media/governmental controlled and enforced belief.

mythago

It has not, actually, been made "quite clear" that this person kept his hateful views out of his workplace--as demonstrated by his comment about his black students.

And the fact that anyone would compare a Nazi sympathizer to "a member of some well known Muslim group" is vile. As if merely being a devout Muslim means you are the moral and intellectual equivalent of a person who believes that white skin makes you part of a race, one that is separate to and superior to all others, and those others deserve lesser status or death. Are you really that ignorant, Jon, or do you just hate Muslims?

I have been told more than once by pro-choice feminists that it is problematic for me, a straight white Christian pro-life male, to teach the one class in the entire college that focuses heavily on reproductive rights issues! I insist, over and over again, that my biology ought not to trump my teaching ability.

Hugo, you realize you just changed the terms of the debate, right? The pro-choice feminists are not merely saying 'you're male, stop teaching this.' They are also questioning your pro-life stance. That is not your "biology."

The Angry Clam

Of course, Hugo, I also don't think you show up to any of your things dressed like this (actual photo of Pluss, according to the nazis' website) and talking about sending your students to the ovens.

Rachael

What is most important is the realization that Fairleigh Dickinson's population of students consist mostly of African Americans, Foreign Students, and also Jewish students. It is also understandable that the Professor can not and would not have been fired over his political views if they were not broadcasted so widely. With the population of Fairleigh Dickinson consisting of so many students that Professor Pluss had hatred towards it makes the students feel uncomfortable after knowing what his thoughts were. Put yourself in an African American's shoes that has Professor Pluss, I would be wondering the whole time if he was looking at me differently, grading me because I was black and etc. I think that the University did exactly what needed to be done with the Professor. When you take on a career such as teaching at a widely populated university one needs to realize that there are certain actions one can not take. If he kept his views to himself and did not post them all over the internet the outcomes may have been handled differently and all his absences may have been overlooked for the semester and he could have gotten off with a warning. I am a student at Fairleigh Dickinson and I am glad that Professor Pluss is no longer a part of the University.

SHM

Can someone tell me where the end of a multiculture is?
In Europe the fastest growing culture is islam, so it will end one day, but when?
Fifty years from now, or a hundred?

Dr. Jacques Pluss

Mr.Schwyzer: Yesterday, 12/26/05, I sent you a lengthy post responding to all of the misinformation you've had up on the Internet about me since April, 2005. I notice that you DID NOT POST MY RESPONSE. I must only assume from your non-action that you are a man of NO CHARACTER,who is out to retain on his site only the most sensation junk in order to get hits on the site. I can tell you that what goes around, comes around. And for the so-called "students" of mine who've posted with you and on some other junk site called "Cliopatriarchs," most of the misinformation about me is simply fabricated! How, for instance, could I have been raised near a Nazi Bund Camp in New Jersey when I was born in 1953? How is it that many of my former students said words to the effect that I never showed my (Nazi) politics in the classroom? Well, if you note my post of 12/26, the answer will be clear -- I am not a Nazi. As I explained, my actions outside the classroom were intended as research for a forthcoming book on "White Power Groups" in the U.S. By the way, where did you get your Ph.D.? What have you published? Tenured or not (as I was at William Paterson University), why are you teaching at some third-rate two year college? You are a FRAUD who has one talent: sitting in front of a computer key board and attempting to ruin the reputations of others. What shortcoming in your life has led you to so shameful a position? Jacques Pluss, Ph.D.

Dr. Jacques Pluss

Well, Mr. Schwyzer, at least you displayed my first post of 12/27/05. I'm surprised. As far as I'm concerned, you still rank as a key-board riding fool. Still, in the hopes that you will find a small piece of DECENCY leading you to clarify the utter nonsense surrounding virtually all of the posts on me, I remind you that (in my mysteriously gone post of 12/26)I explained that I left full-time university instruction (in 2000) to pursue a life-long love -- horse training. I took up instruction in 2002 at Fairleigh Dickinson University as an adjunct in order to "keep my hand in" what had become a hobby. The rest is history which you should research via the "White Power" sites I noted for you. There, you will find information on my departure from the White Power groups, that is, once the research for my book had been completed. Yes, I remind you I've also written widely in an academic field too recondite even for many medievalists -- medieval Roman law and jurisprudence. On what have you written, other than the reputation of others in a yellow-journalistic fashion? YOU ARE STILL A FRAUDULENT PSEUDO-SCHOLAR WITH A FLARE FOR THE NEGATIVELY FANTASTIC. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AS MY LAWYERS COME KNOCKING ON THE DOOR OF YOUR LITTLE OFFICE IN YOUR LITTLE TWO-YEAR HOVEL OF A SCHOOL. Jacques Pluss, Ph.D.

alexander

I would not hire David Irving to teach about the Third Reich.

What is wrong with David Irving? I've read most of his books and he provides some outstanding analysis of the 3rd Reich and WW2.

As for the issue of Dr. Pluss, if he is to be denied employment because he is a National Socialist, then what right to liberals have to complain about McCarthyism? Should Marxists be fired since they express hatred for their capitalist students?

alexander

HUGO YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE BUTTONS ON THIS PAGE. WHEN YOU PRESS "POST" YOU GO TO THE PREVIEW PAGE!

David Irving was recently denied entry into New Zealand for a speaking tour because of his historical views. Interesting how liberals (I use the term broadly) can act like reactionary anti-communists in closing the door on people whose views they do not agree with.

Joe

LOL, I just downloaded a speech by Pluss from the National Socialist Movement website!

There is no way he was faking! Well, that's just my opinion. You be the judge:
http://www.nsm88radio.com/

Also more infor here: http://whitepowerchat.com/nsmforum/

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